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with the united states to overturn gadhafi and police libya these last years but opened relationships with al qaeda and the darkest elements of the jihadists. there's suggestion ambassador stevens was murdered in revenge for the death of a libyan hero to the al qaeda forces al-libbi killed by a drone strike june 4th. >> john, what you're saying is round up the usual suspect, you're saying they have not really caught the perpetrators who killed ambassador stevens? >> the perpetrators are al qaeda and the jihadists of the uma. it's a vast organization. >> thank you for that. let me go to paul wulff wits, former deputy secretary of defense. thank you for coming back on the program. what's your take on this? president obama said no act of terror will go unpunished. he said we're going to bring them all to justice. what happens now? how do we bring them all to justice? >> clearly, we're talking about libya, it will happen with the cooperation of the libyans. one of the important things to put in context here, it's almost lost in everything i've heard is back in july the libyans had a pretty fair e
to building bridges between the united states and the arab and muslim world, particularly libya. and i think this is going to sour a lot of americans about the future trajectory of the middle east, about the direction in which the arab spring is headed. and i think particularly this is tragic for syrians. syrians who are now under siege or around 20,000 syrians have been killed by the regime of assad and i think many syrians were hoping for an outside intervention or outside aid to provide some type of save zones. and i think the reality is that after the united states and nato had gone into libya it oust gadhafi, i think there will be far less appetite to want on do anything in syria. >> probably also raises huge questions about money from america that is going to fund some of these governments particularly in egypt where it's $1.5 billion plus another billion that was being put together in a package right now. how do you think that plays out in congress at this point? >> that's absolutely right. egypt is a country which has i think the second or third largest aid package from the united st
lives are at stake and you know this, you don't go out and attack the president of the united states and say that he's somehow or another sympathizes with terrorists. that's how he lost it. if you handed that statement to ronald reagan, if you handed that statement to george bush or go, h.w. bush, i think they would have looked at you and said you know you have a new job in this campaign. why don't you answer the phones because it was ill-advised. it was a mistake. today they announced they are is going to have a whole bunch of specifics. they have ed gillespie on the phone and i think he's terrific. >> i think he lost the support of the liberal press and the liberal media which he never had anyway. >> dick, you would not have advised him to make that statement at that time in the middle the violence. >> how could you comment on what everybody in america was talking about. a president whose foreign policy is -- it was embarrassing. >> hang on. one at a time. >> the fact that it offended the liberal press probably -- >> it offended americans. >> it offended americans. president of the
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